The Quad Q&A: When Do I Tell A New Prospect I Am Poly?

first date poly rulesOkay so for reference, I’m a 22 year old female who has been dating one 25 year old man for four years now. We’re happy, he knows I’m poly, it’s been on the table for about 3 years now. Right now it’s a long distance relationship, although it hasn’t always been. I’m having no problems with him. The issue I’m having is that for the first time since then, someone is interested in me and I think I royally messed up the order of things.

Friday night I went by myself to a local dance hall/club to check it. I considered that maybe I might be able to hook up with someone but I wasn’t really looking for anyone to actually date. Long story short, I ended up bringing a guy back home with me. Since I was expecting a one night stand and was also kind of frazzled that anyone had found me attractive enough to go home with, I didn’t bring up that I was poly. I really wasn’t expecting to ever see him again after I drove him back to his car the next day, but I underestimated my charm apparently because he definitely wants to see me again. He asked ME for my number and said he wants to meet up with me next week at the club again.

I have seen advice from other Poly people that I should always be open with someone I meet about being poly before anything sexual happens between us.   While we didn’t have sex, we did have sexual contact. He never asked if I was seeing someone and trust me when I say that if he had, I would have been honest about it.  But I just never felt that there was an appropriate time to bring it up. It was also loud and it would have probably been a complicated conversation to have in a club. I feel like a jerk about it now, but I just really didn’t think I would have to deal with this! poly first date rules

This new guy is older than my boyfriend, and is also getting a doctorate in some field of psychology. He didn’t seem to have a problem with the other weird things I revealed about myself, so I think it’s safe to assume he won’t be too shocked when I tell him I am poly.  He may be upset I didn’t tell him the first night we had sexual contact though. poly first date rules

My personal friends don’t have any experience with this sort of stuff, so I’m coming to you guys for help with this. I want to tell him before we meet again. I know that keeping it from him any longer is a really bad idea, I think. I feel like I got thrown in the deep end with this and I’m really inexperienced. My initial idea was to text him and ask to meet for coffee because I had to talk to him about something.  However, I could also just text him so that if it ends up that he doesn’t want to hang out with me anymore, neither of us have to deal with being face to face with each other. Texting feels too impersonal. Do you guys have any ideas or suggestions for me? Did I mess up by having sexual contact with him without letting him know I was poly? Should I tell him before we meet again, and do I really have to tell him? poly first date rules poly first date rules

*As a group we decided to each take the question and answer it on our own, without seeing the others’ responses

Gunnar’s Response:
As a man who has multiple girlfriends my fear is always “will I be accepted”. This also seems to be in the back of your mind. Society today is more progressive but there are still some who are negative towards poly or multiple partners. I am glad that you want to air this out, although you didn’t mention what was discussed fully between each other outside of “weird things about yourself”. Was sexual history discussed? Besides what positions you like ;). What about his current status? My concerns always hinge on those two points since it establishes a baseline. It also leads to other conversations like that you are poly.

With that said, I am curious on what your other partner is aware of. Do you have any set rules or boundaries? Do you communicate everything that happens in your lives including lovers or potential dates? With having long distance relationships (I am in two right now) communication is so much more important than being local. Not having the physical contact and regular interaction makes it hard to ensure you are on the same page. Trust me, it is very easy to fall into this trap and end up having long conversations after the fact.

With the assumptions that I have, advising your new interest on your status is very important. Not all men like to share. However, not all men care either. It could end up being just another night that ends in sex and that is it. Either way it seems that you had fun and if it happens again, you wouldn’t argue. You also don’t seem to be looking for something more with this new guy. As to when to tell him, I’d suggest doing it with texts (if you are texting). I do most of my base questions through texting, so that is not as bad as you think. Either in person or over text works, more on what you are comfortable with. It’s not like you are dumping the guy. You are simply setting expectations and ensuring no assumptions are being made going forward.

Communication is key to any relationship. Friends, family and relationships. It is how all relationships work, and without it, they will ultimately fail. Myself having multiple girls I ensure that they are all aware of each other. Based on the relationship they are informed as needed. My wives (married and poly wife) are always informed about my dates along with expectations (sex is always on the table). Again, these are the rules I have set with everyone and there is no hard or fast rule in the lifestyle.  Just be honest to yourself and your partners and things will work out.

Now this is all from a man’s point of view, so I am curious on a woman’s point of view.

Krystalla’s Response:
Yes, you need to tell him, and if it were me, I would do it before you see him again. It’s easy to get caught up in hormones and everything while in the situation, then processing everything after can make you think “what did I do?” Don’t beat yourself up about that, take it as a learning experience. It happened and you didn’t go beyond your own boundaries (right? if you did, then that’s a whole other processing point), so before going further you need to tell this guy.

Personally I would text him the basics, that you’re non-monogamous, and then if he’s fine with it, go into more details about your poly long distance relationship and stance on things when you meet again. Also, you should probably clarify if he’s single or not. I am also assuming that you’ve discussed what had transpired with your current partner, and your thoughts going forward with this other guy…? Honesty and open communication are of utmost importance in a successful relationship, and are even more important when you’re dealing with dating more than one.

Lexxi’s Response:
I think that it is important to open up with him and discuss. Use your first partner as a sounding board also, let him in on your dilemma, that way you have someone by your side, so to speak.

Don’t wait too long. It only makes things harder, not to mention, it will hurt not just you, but both other men as well. No one likes to be kept a secret, and by not being upfront with the new potential person, you would be doing just that.

How to go about it? I am not sure how much you discussed after leaving the club the last time, but perhaps it wouldn’t be a bad thing to suggest to meet up for general conversation over coffee. I agree that the club setting is not the best place to have important conversations of any kind, and you may want to get to know him better if the conversation about poly works out for you. Coffee shop would be more conducive for those types of conversations. May I suggest you simply say, in your text, that you would like to have a chance to chat in a neutral setting that isn’t too loud before meeting again, that is, if he asks why.

Good luck 😉

Bob’s Response:
First off, I’m assuming your current boyfriend knows about your activities… and that you are looking for play partner and that you have some kind of protocol to communicate what the two of you need/want to discuss. To me that is the important part of this; communication (however you are comfortable with) between established poly partners is the key.  As for this new guy, to me I say don’t sweat it, poly is a controversial issue and not everyone understands it. At this point in the relationship, aka a booty call, it’s not the kind of information that needs to be shared. Now that is me, the emotionless swinger. Since you are asking this question I’m assuming that the fact that it’s bothering you, you need to add this in your conversation protocol to any potential play partner. So in the future, I say bring it into the conversation, if nothing else, just to make you feel like you are honoring your poly guidelines. Now for your current and situation, are you interested in this guy? That is the question. If you are, and considering the reaction you are having, I would say bring it up in conversation. As for how…well I can’t really tell you which one is better. It all depends on you and your communication style. If it was me I would do it during the next date (I’m assuming that there will be one). Be honest and matter of fact. This is who you are. If he has issue, that’s his problem…walk away. If not, well girl have some fun. poly first date rules

The Quad – An Introduction Into Their Polyamory Lifestyle

polyamoryIntroducing:  The Quad.

We have asked four friends (The Quad) who are in a polyamory relationship with each other to share some of their experiences with our readers. How exactly we will do this, we are not quite sure. The difficulty in organizing four separate people, who all have their own respective blogs (linked below in the descriptions of themselves), isn’t easy. Which is exactly why we have asked them to share their experiences. If maintaining a productive blog that makes sense to our readers is tough, imagine maintaining an actual relationship with 4 people, while also dating others outside of The Quad? I assume this is a huge challenge.

We will title any blogs from this series with the header, “The Quad – (Blog Title Here)”.

Meet The Quad.



Venice and Ryan have asked us to participate in their blog. Of, course, we are honoured by this invitation. The first thing we should do is introduce ourselves.

There are four of us in our relationship and we form what we call our quad. In fact, we just celebrated our third “quadversary” – this a word that Krys made up when we hit our first year anniversary. The guys, Gunnar and Bob, are straight, Lexxi is bisixeual with a preference to guys, and Krys is heteroflexible.

Gun and Krys are legally married as are Bob and Lexxi, but we have all iterated that if it were legal to marry more than one person, we would seriously consider it. We do consider ourselves intertwined as such often referring to our other partners as poly spouses.

We all have different likes and kinks when it comes to sex.

  • Bob (shutterbob.net) is a voyeur, photographer, sadist, sexual explorer, you name it he has thought of it and probably tried it. Out of the group he is the one that will push the borders and pull the group along (with full consent of course). He is also the one that probably seeks out group play the most. Bob is Dom to both Lexxi and Krys and takes great pleasure in pushing their limits and borders. As he likes to say; it’s not the destination that matters but the journey.
  • Krys (krystalla3.wordpress.com) is one of Bob’s subs. She is still discovering her submissive side and is finding that she is masochistic. She loves the pain and marks on her body. Krys also has a boyfriend outside of the quad.
  • Lexxi (lexxiblue.wordpress.com) is a sensualist sub who likes to be restrained. She doesn’t mind pain but doesn’t necessarily like marks left on her body. She does like having her limits pushed, gently. She hates to admit it, but she is realizing she’s a service sub, however doesn’t think she’s very good at it. She doesn’t enjoy cleaning house, but she does take pleasure in making sure everyone’s needs are met. Everyone meaning her Sir, her poly hubby, her sister sub, and any guests that come into her home.
  • Gun (opencoupling.com) is the most vanilla in our quad. He isn’t into kinky sex but has dabbled with the group to have an understanding. He can be a verbal Dom when situation presents itself. His other fetishes is new blood. To experience new women (well, new to him, that is). Currently has a few other relationships outside of the quad.

We have noticed over the last year or so, when we meet new people or go out in public, people often question who is with who within our quad and find that quite amusing.

We are all parents. Bob and Lexxi have a 23 yr old girl and a 24 year old boy. Both of them are fully aware of their lifestyle choices and have been very good about it, often helping out with Krys and Gun’s boys, who are 14 & 11, when they tag along to visit Bob and Lexxi. Krys and Gun’s kids don’t know the full extent of their relationships yet, but do understand that we’re important to each other.

There is 500km/300 miles between our respective homes, so we try very hard to make sure we get together on a monthly(ish) basis. This is challenging in the sense that everything has to be planned out. The distance doesn’t make it easy for spontaneous activities.

So after reading that last paragraph, I am sure you are now wondering how we met. Short answer… twitter. Bob and Krys started chatting on Twitter about common subjects along with another group of people. It was suggested to organize a meet and greet in Niagara Falls, Ontario. We all agreed to go and the rest is history.

We have also expressed ourselves in our own personal blogs. They range in topics from the lifestyle to personal feelings/experiences.

Sex Games For Couples: The Cocktail Party

Sex Games For Couples: The Cocktail Party

The Cocktail Party.  What can make sex more fun and playful than turning it into a game? Throughout our years of marriage we have came up with ideas that we may or may not have actually used. But nonetheless, we have decided to share our ideas with our readers. Some of these sex games may help with communication or kinky secrets, some may be for sex parties, but others just may be simple quick fun to use as foreplay. If you and your partner have your own games, please share in the comments below or email us ideas!

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This is not a game in the since that there is a winner or loser, but instead more of a challenge or idea that you both understand.  The key to sex games isn’t to make up some weird game where there are a bunch of rules to follow; rather, the purpose of sex games is to add a bit of variety and fun to your sex life. The goal to this game is to create unique cocktails based off the sex your having.

So let’s start with what the Sex Cocktail actually is. The Sex Cocktail is the juices left inside her body (Creampie) and on his penis after sex. Whether you have both performed oral sex prior, leaving each other wet with saliva, sweat, used coconut oil as lubrication, and then both came together, leaving the vagina and penis soaking with all your bodily fluids, this is what your sex tastes like. In other words, this is your Sex Cocktail. This Cocktail is either considered a burden or a mess (some people consider this gross or “icky”), or something special and the taste your bodies make together. It’s not a far out concept, as cleaning up creampies after sex isn’t a new idea. However, building up the mindset that the mixture of all your juices together isn’t just a freaky after sex act, but more of a special way to taste the flavors your bodies make together, adds a whole new spice to the bedroom. Especially when you both start suggesting that you use the dick to stir up the cocktail after you’ve both came, as to get all the juices mixed together. In fact, the funnest part of this game for us is all the dirty talk about making the cocktail. Whether Venice is telling me how excited she is to taste our cocktail after sex, or how she will ask me to grind my dick as deep as her vagina allows, as to make sure all her hidden juices are also left dripping off my cock when I pull out of her.  This type of talk has now taken over our bedroom at the moment.

It’s less of a game and more of a mindset.

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Naughty Selfie – Are these boots cute?

Rather than not blog anything on a busy Thursday, I decided to be lazy and take a naughty selfie! Oh the traffic we will get from a dirty PG selfie! Either way, hopefully you guys have a good weekend!  By the way, do you think my boots are cute?!

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Q&A: Why Do I Love To Be Abused During Sex?

rough sexHello Venice and Ryan. My question is pretty simple. What is it about being abused during sex that I like so much? I suppose the variation of this question for Ryan would be, why do some men really enjoy the role of being abusive during sex? Thank you guys! rough sex rough sex rough sex rough sex rough sex

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