The Quad Q&A: Date Aftercare for Primary

polyamoryI have a date tonight! I’m excited, lots of new relationship energy, and it’s with someone that seems compatible with my interests and way of life. I’ve been “out” as poly for about a year, and have a primary partner that identifies as mono/monogamish. We had a rocky start, as I tried to date and see others a little too quickly and without much communication. We took a step back, worked on our relationship, and my partner is supportive and even encouraging.

However, I haven’t dated much. While previous dates went fine, they were not with people I found very interesting or promising. This one I’m excited for, and seems promising. I can tell, though theoretically she’s fine with my dating, the prospect of this date is making my partner a bit nervous.

I was wondering if you guys have tips on someone approaching and talking to their primary partner after/before a date that makes them a bit nervous/jealous? What are good after-care practices? Any other advice or things I should be thinking about?

I really want to make sure my partner knows she’s loved and important!

Lexxi’s response:
It is important to make sure that your partner, especially your primary partner(s) are aware and understand how important they are to you.

I find that I am most at ease the moment the new potential partner has been made aware of my presence in my primary partners’ (and yes, I have used this in the plural sense as, to me, everyone in my quad is my primary) lives. Without that being put out to our dating worlds, I feel less than important to my partners and then my insecurities set in.

I feel even more at ease when that new potential partner reaches out to talk with me. This, to me, makes me feel acknowledged and puts me even more at ease. It means, to me, that this person is showing that they understand how important I am in their lives. They are showing me that they care enough about my loves to take the time to get to know me as well, which in turn reassures me that they will be careful with this treasure of a person.

I highly recommend that you both discuss what is needed before and after a date. You may not be able to think of all the potential things that will make things go smoother until the first, or even second, date has past, and that is OK. It is just important to note the things that would make things better the next time. The caveat here though, don’t take it personal. Take it as a learning experience. Think of it as, “next time, I would need this to make me feel more comfortable”. And just because you or your partner were not comfortable with something the first time, or that you need to tweek the before and aftercare, does not mean that the date and/or experience can’t repeat itself. It just means that there may need some changes in the before and aftercare.

I hope this helps, and enjoy your date…

Lexxi

Krys’s response:
There are various ways you can do to help my primary partner know they’re loved and appreciated.  It ranges from doing little things for them (get them a drink, help with something around the house), telling them they’re loved, and making sure that we get some quality reconnect time after a date.

One thing that’s always helped me when my partner starts to see someone new, is talking to or texting with that person.  I don’t expect to become close friends with them or anything, but it’s helped to ease my mind (and a lot of times, the other person’s mind as well) when I can let them know I’m real and in full knowledge and support of my partner spending time with them.  I’ve been lucky in becoming pretty good friends with a few of my metamours (the term for your partner’s partner).  At my birthday party last year people in attendance included the quad, my boyfriend and his wife, and a few of my husband’s FWB’s, along with some “vanilla” friends who know and accept us for who we are. It was amazing 🙂

A lot of what you and your partner might need will change and evolve over time, especially since this is a new situation for you both.  Make sure you keep the communication open.  Quality time is probably the most important thing, but there may also be little things that they’d appreciate.

Gunnar’s response:
I am not going to repeat what has already been stated above.  Krystalla and myself went through a lot of adjustments with this.  It was a learning curve and took a little bit of time to understand it for ourselves.  Aftercare is something that not every couple thinks about.  With the emotions and feelings running high sometimes it can be overwhelming.  It is important that you understand that this is normal.  Reconnecting is important, and as time goes on this too will evolve.  

For Krystalla and myself when we first opened up we fucked like rabbits after each date.  Actually we fucked like rabbits for some time after we opened up.  The thoughts, feelings, and wandering mind contributed with this.  It also is how we reconnected. We didn’t know it at the time and realized it after.

Cuddling, talking, sex or any other means of showing your partner that they are still important in your life is key.  The one thing that we noticed if we didn’t reconnect that we felt like we were left behind.  So after each date we found something that we did together.  The bond got stronger and as time went on we noticed the reconnect was a lot of smaller things as well.

Every relationship will evolve.  It is one thing that is never constant.  Much like exploring your poly side, your relationship will also expand and grow.  Never forget your partner and make sure that they know why they are so important to you.  The one constant you do have is your partner and they are the ones we lean on for support.  Talk through everything and you will find that your relationship will grow and with that you will become closer as well.

Bob’s response:
Aftercare and communication are the key…  I would start by finding out what your primary wants and needs to feel safe in your relationship…  to me this has two facets ..

The first is how much your primary wants to know.  This could be a tricky since as IMO this is where most of the communication misunderstanding can occur.  Too much or too little information can be as stressful, oh and this can change based on the relationship so renegotiation of this can vary based on the partner or the time..  To give and example,  I’m a voyeur and love to hear all the details when Lexxi and Krys go on dates (especially if there is kink involved ;))   but I grow quite bored when it comes to repetitive romance or activities that happen over multiple dates .. those I don’t care as much for, so a lot of time it gets glossed over. For others it may be different. Finding out what is the ideal amount of info, especially if the primary is mono is something that has to be scary… it can actually be a fun exercise and help understand each other better… but do know that you will probably screw up at least a few times… both partners need to understand that, and learn from it

The second is reconnection… what to do after a date especially if sex is involved ..  I’ll be a broken record and mention the same thing .. find out, and I mean talk about, what works for you. It could be a simple snuggle or a full on hot passionate fuck afterward (I’m a big fan of this one). Actually I would say establish 2 or 3 of these, so that you’re not stressing about not being able to perform what was agreed upon.

Have fun exploring and remember you are partners on this adventure. You may not always be traveling each road together, but it’s the journey that counts.

Q&A: Question About FFM Threesomes

threeI’m the male in this situation. I have had a few threesomes. This one is planned and I have logistical questions.

One girl I have unprotected sex with. One girl I have to use a condom with. How do I do this exactly? Should I fuck one, then the other, and try not to switch back? Do I clean myself inbetween? What do I clean myself with? Do I switch back and forth with a new condom every time?

Is there a guide for positions? The last couple times the girls were not bi and I had trouble coming up with good positions. They kept expecting me to tell them what to do and it’s hard commanding two girls when they do not want to touch each other. That will probably happen again at some point so could I have suggestions for positions for a threesome with two girls who are not bi and the current situation in which they are?

Sometimes they will be confused on how to do something. Is there a good generic answer for this? One common one is a double blowjob. They don’t know where to position themselves. What do I tell them?

These new girls, thankfully, are into each other. I think probably more than they are into me.

They made me buy restraints so if any ideas include those in the positions, that would be great. Silk ties.

Starting it is also always weird too. They always look to me to initiate it, but then they resist me encouraging them. I think I will try suggesting they do things to each other? 

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Rating Your Penis Selfies: The Bathroom Floor (nsfw)

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Thinking about sending that hottie you just met on tinder your penis selfie? Maybe your twitter finger is a bit itchy and you want to show the world what you are working with? Well before you do that, maybe you should think about letting a neutral eye critique it first. Who knows, you may lose the possible future love of your life because you sent a penis pic that wasn’t up to a woman’s standards.  Yea, some women may enjoy a photoshopped 12 inch cock that is so warped the chair in the background of the photo has taken on a whole new shape, or a picture of your penis with a with a rose sticking out of its penis hole, while in the background there is a toilet filled with a log that is double the size of your schlong, but you can never get a second chance to make a first dick selfie impression! Listen fellas, let’s face it, a penis pic is a dime a dozen. There is very little demand and a whole lot of supply. What sets apart your dick from a porn stars isn’t going to be its size or shape, but the creativeness of the photo itself. That’s what women give a second look at. With that being said, let’s see if you can separate your penis selfie from the pack.  Think quality, artistry, vision, grooming style, and of course, penis placement!  You can submit your pics by emailing me at sexlifeandeverything@gmail.com.

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The Bathroom Floor

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Sex Ed: How Women Overcome Vaginismus

VaginismusWhen a woman has vaginismus, her vagina’s muscles squeeze or spasm when something is entering her, like a tampon or a penis. It can be mildly uncomfortable, or it can be painful. There are exercises a woman can do that can help, sometimes within weeks. vaginismus

Symptoms
Painful sex is often a woman’s first sign that she has vaginismus. The pain happens only with penetration. It usually goes away after withdrawal, but not always. Women have described the pain as a tearing sensation or a feeling like the man is “hitting a wall.” Many women who have vaginismus also feel discomfort when inserting a tampon or during a doctor’s internal pelvic exam.

Causes
Doctors don’t know exactly why vaginismus happens. It’s usually linked to anxiety and fear of having sex. But it’s unclear which came first, the vaginismus or the anxiety. Some women have vaginismus in all situations and with any object. Others have it only in certain circumstances, like with one partner but not others, or only with sexual intercourse but not with tampons or during medical exams.

Other medical problems like infections can also cause painful intercourse. So it’s important to see a doctor to determine the underlying cause of pain during sex.

Treatment
dilatorsWomen with vaginismus can do exercises, in the privacy of their own home, to learn to control and relax the muscles around the vagina. The approach is called progressive desensitization, and the idea is to get comfortable with insertion.

First, do Kegel exercises by squeezing the same muscles you use to stop the flow of urine when urinating:

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Threesome Memoirs: Busted (Hidden Camera)

1381743995a03-sextingWhat’s crazy about this story is the entire threesome is on video…with permission of course. hidden camera

So the night starts for us with alcohol.

Okay, wait…

I think we’ve done all this before way too many times. I think you’ve read this from us too many times. In fact, instead of glorifying our threesome in erotica format, I will write a quick summary of all the action and slow down when I get to the nitty gritty.

We drank. They kissed. Venice ate out the other girl while the other girl sucked my dick. However, this girl would only suck dick for maybe 30 second intervals, before she would relax with her head between my legs and eat my ass hole out for minutes at a time. Every now and then Venice would come up and they would suck my dick together, or the other girl would be licking my ass hole and stroking my dick while Venice sucked the upper free portion of my cock. After a few minutes Venice would go back down to get her fix of pussy. On camera, Venice was visually leaking a lot of clear froth from her vagina, enough so that her entire inner thighs were wet. Condom on. Venice got up and sat on the other girls face while I fucked the other girl. Venice held my ass and controlled my movements and how deep I went inside the other girl.  Eventually we had the other girl balled up as Venice held her legs up to her own hips and asked me to pound her pussy as hard as I could.  I did. After a few minutes, we stopped. Condom off. Once I take the condom off I do not plan to fuck the other girl again, just Venice. The girls moved to 69 position while I was away washing off the condom smell off my dick. After I came back I got behind Venice and fucked her, while the other girl on bottom licked Venice clit, the pussy juices off my dick, and sucked on my balls. We then all laid on the bed as both girls shared sucking my dick until I came. They played with my cum together while I watched, kissing each other and passing my dick back and forth until their faces and my dick was clean……..

And then I went to take a shower.

As I walk out of the bathroom nude, still drying off, I notice the other girl is holding her phone and casually aiming it “kinda” at the bed Venice is laying nude on. Venice, a bit tipsy, is laying down with her head to the side, playing with her vagina. I glance at the other girl’s screen and see an image, but was not really sure what it is. The girl clumsily puts the phone down on the couch across from the bed and says, “Oh, I was trying to fix this stupid contacts screen.”

Venice, still horny, announces to both of us that she isn’t done with the other girl yet and motions for her to put her face back down between her legs.  The other girl obliges, and crawls back to the foot of the bed and starts eating out Venice again. I hit record on the camera again and sit down on the couch to watch them.

Knowing the other girls face is buried between Venice’s thighs, I pick up her phone. Unsure if I beat the timer that locks the phone permanently, or she just didn’t have a lock on it. Either way, I jumped to her “gallery” and saw all her photos. Some nudes of herself, photos of other in various naughty poses, family photos, photos of her possible husband/boyfriend, and of course, pictures she had just taken of Venice without either of our consent. My mind went blank and all I saw was red. I was angry at Venice for being so trustworthy and not paying attention, mad at the other girl for taking the photos without our consent, and mad at myself for not just standing up on the spot, grabbing the girl by her little ass titties, and kicking her to the curb immediately. Instead, I quickly navigated to her “My Files” application and clicked on the entire “Camera” folder. One of a kind family photos, dead grandmothers last picture, whatever. All I knew was, I saw about 3 of 4 photos of Venice laying on the bed and clicked on that folder and deleted everything. Gone.  And for good measure, I clicked the “Download” folder and deleted everything in there too. If she didn’t have a backups, they were gone. No fucks given.

As I sat there, with my own camera recording this girl eat Venice out, I patiently waited for Venice to finish…

30 minutes later, Venice cums on the girls face and pushes her head back as she squeezes her legs. I get up, without showing to much emotion, and ask Venice if she is going to wash off. She was still a bit buzzed, so she clumsily slide off the bed and made little jokes about how good she felt. I didn’t really respond because I was irritated, and only said to her, “Go wash off please.”

As Venice disappeared into the bathroom I told the other girl to hurry up and get dressed so I could walk her out. I didn’t want to make a scene, but I knew once I got her outside of the house I was going to let her know I saw those pics and I deleted everything on her phone.  She put her clothes on, while I watched, sick to my stomach.  Usually after a threesome I will give the girl space, look away, or let them take their time, hang out, whatever. Not sure why I look away after I’ve came on these girls and fucked them, but I do. Not this time. Angrily I watched, almost as if, I wanted her to know that I was more anxious to see her put her clothes on than actually take them off.

After she got dressed, I opened the door, not letting her say goodbye to Venice, and motioned for her to hurry up. She walked in front of me and I led her to the front door.  As soon as she stepped out, I let her know that I had seen the photos of Venice on her phone.  I told her I had deleted everything and if I found out she had other shots I didn’t know about, it wasn’t going to be a nice situation at all. She immediately went from happy and smiling, to shocked and scorned. The only thing she could say was “sorry”.  She lowered her head, moving away from me, not knowing what my response was going to be. Obviously, we were virtually strangers and she had just been caught sneaking photos of my wife. If it she were a man (a problem we will never have to deal with), she would have been laid out on the spot. Luckily for her, she was caught by someone with a little bit of self control that just wanted her gone.

Not that Venice hasn’t taken nude photos with other women, but of course she did this totally posing for the camera, prepared. Not alone sprawled out on the bed, legs spread, touching herself, tipsy from alcohol. And without consent, this was a total violation.

There really isn’t much else to the story. Venice walked out into the garage while I was talking to the other girl, and couldn’t figure out while I was speaking so aggressively towards her. The other girl glanced at Venice, put her head down in shame, and said sorry and walked to her car.

When I got back in the house I told Venice what happened and she immediately said, “She will never be welcomed in my house again.”

As soon as I heard that I stopped and said, “Wait, wait…let’s not jump the gun here.”   But that was just me not wanting to give up on a duo that we’re pretty damn good as sucking dick together.  But, she was right. We haven’t spoke with her since. hidden camera

*haven’t proofread or edited.  Will be corrected later.  In a rush guys!